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2k1neon
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![[*]](./images/xn/default_icon.gif) posted on 3-10-2010 at 10:58 AM |
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yes but the 4g63 is not an american engine, its japanese, now the na version is american(or mexican cant recal) which was the 420a. Ill post some
links supporting my sr20 data when i get off of work, it"s too hard doing it all from a phone lol. I do know this though since a buddy of mine, in
fact he is a registered member, (jdmblackdeth i think) had a 200sx, with a sr20de that came stock. i believe they were only a certain trim, but to me
the sr motor wasnt too impressive in stock form, it was very underpowered/overbuilt/over engineered. there true potential was there bottom end
capabilities under heavy boost.
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| posted on 3-10-2010 at 01:48 PM |
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i think your right the 200 did come with the srde engine i kept thinking of the sentra
i lost my neon, but not the love!
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| posted on 3-10-2010 at 11:16 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 2k1neon
yes but the 4g63 is not an american engine, its japanese, now the na version is american(or mexican cant recal) which was the 420a. Ill post some
links supporting my sr20 data when i get off of work, it"s too hard doing it all from a phone lol. I do know this though since a buddy of mine, in
fact he is a registered member, (jdmblackdeth i think) had a 200sx, with a sr20de that came stock. i believe they were only a certain trim, but to me
the sr motor wasnt too impressive in stock form, it was very underpowered/overbuilt/over engineered. there true potential was there bottom end
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Ooooh, no no no. The 4g63t and the 420a are two totally different engines. No, no no... very different engines...
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| posted on 3-11-2010 at 01:10 AM |
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hahaha yeah they are completely differant.
1.4g63t is turbo
2.4g63 is a way better engine
3.its jdm not dsm
4.even the 4g63 dsm version is differant then the 420a
in no way are they alike
......lol a stock mtx eclispse in no way could bet a stock mtx neon imo
i lost my neon, but not the love!
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2k1neon
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| posted on 3-11-2010 at 05:56 AM |
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i think you guys misread what i wrote. i do realize, the 420a and the 4g63 are different engines. And all 4g63's eclipse, evo, glant, hyandai
excell(sp), turbo or non turbo are all "jdm".
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| posted on 3-11-2010 at 01:51 PM |
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I understood what you meant. I also believe that the neon engine came from the Trent Michigan plant. The 2.4 turbo is from Mexico. Anyone remember the
stratus rt that they had in Mexico? That 2.4 turbo motor was the dad to the srt engine. It ran a Garrett turbo. That manifold served as the base for
early neon turbo cars.
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I believe the 3.0 stratus RT motors were Mitsubishi for a few years, then they went to a 2.7, which was junk but made in the states. I dont remember
ever seeing a 2.4t from dodge before the one in the GT pt, or the srt, there previous turboed dodges were 2.2T's in the old shelbys and omnis i
believe.
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| posted on 3-11-2010 at 05:34 PM |
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didnt they also turbo the shadows,daytonas and a mini van??? haha the turbo omnis a friend of mine had one.....the ugliest car every.....lol but it
was turbo
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| posted on 3-11-2010 at 05:53 PM |
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I will have to show you all the light........The Stratus R/T from mexico.2.4T with an auto stick
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| posted on 3-11-2010 at 07:52 PM |
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http://www.allpar.com/model/stratusrt.html Take a look.
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| posted on 3-11-2010 at 09:19 PM |
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Interesting, I never knew, the Stratus's were pretty heavy and had hellish final drives considering it only got 15.6's in the 1/4, also it may have
been a bad driver to only get these times, since they put this in there as well going over the 03 and up Srt-4's
| Quote: | I have some recent information about this model, and I would very much appreciate your using this information to update the
site.
Since the year 2004, the old 215 HP engine (just like in the SRT-4, somewhat underrated) was upgraded to 225 HP and 230 lb*ft. The main differences
between the 215 HP and 225 HP models are basically the same existing between the 215 HP 2003 SRT-4 and the 230 HP 2004+ SRT-4s (new ECU configuration,
larger fuel injectors). Some other subtle differences can be noticed when drag-racing both the 215 HP and the 225 HP models. When at full throttle and
with the gearstick in the "Drive" position, the 215 HP will inevitably upshift at 5,500 RPM while the 225 HP model will go all the way to 6,000.
Both models get to 6,250 RPM before the upshift when the gearstick is in the Autostick position.
For some reason, the 215 HP models have proven slightly faster than the 225 HP cars in the 1/4 mile with constant 14.7s and occasional 14.6 seconds
marks at 1200 ft over the sea level. The 225 HP cars get constant 14.8s at the same altitude.
Both models are very sensitive to air temperature changes. 1/4 mile times can rise up to the mid 15s during the summer when we have over 100°F and 80%
air humidity. This situation is not so noticeable in other Chrysler/Dodge turbocharged engines like the 2.2 DOHC or the 2.5 SOHC, as well as
turbocharged engines from other manufacturers like the well-known Volkswagen/Audi/SEAT 1.8T family. |
I pulled consistant 13.9-14.1 bone stock in mine, my best was a 13.8@103. So its possible they were horrible drivers and the Stratus's had potential
of at leas 14.8-15.2's.
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| posted on 3-12-2010 at 08:55 AM |
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I bet you did not know you could use a 2.2 turbo manifold to turbo a SOHC neon. How do I know? I helped fabricate a plate to do so after I learned
that the SOHC and 2.2 share the same bore spacing. A quick look at the two gaskets will verify this.
Scott has the results of this experiment in his garage. It worked very well and will again.
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| posted on 3-12-2010 at 10:22 AM |
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I really like the dcr tt mani and idea, but i see it more as a novelty concept, especially when you consider the already huge aftermaekt available for
the 2.4. very cool though jsut not real practical.
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| posted on 3-12-2010 at 11:05 AM |
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I actually agree with you. It would be less expensive and more powerful to go single large turbo, but something about it just screams my name.
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| posted on 3-17-2010 at 03:14 PM |
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What about DOHC V8's? Like the Ford Modulars.
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L6 6 cylinder engine, hoping to swap out for a 454 soon enough. Stock 3 speed on the floor with a Hurst Indy shifter.
65 C20
283 small block, 4 speed on the floor with granny gear in first. (FOR SALE!!!)
Friends don't let friends drive FORDS!! LOL
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| posted on 3-17-2010 at 04:21 PM |
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I have a feeling that ford built those engines with a flowmaster muffler in mind. Even dead stock you put a flowmaster on these engines and they sound
just unbelievable.
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| posted on 3-17-2010 at 04:36 PM |
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They do sound good with those. My uncle's Mustang, even though not a Modular, has the 302 and his sounds great with his Flowmasters. It's great.
97 neon
All stock.. For now......
69 C10
L6 6 cylinder engine, hoping to swap out for a 454 soon enough. Stock 3 speed on the floor with a Hurst Indy shifter.
65 C20
283 small block, 4 speed on the floor with granny gear in first. (FOR SALE!!!)
Friends don't let friends drive FORDS!! LOL
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| posted on 4-3-2010 at 12:57 AM |
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http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/docum...
Wanna learn all about aircraft engines? Jet's and recips using the same information (well,at least very close) that I have in my text books at
school? The above is AC65 issued by the FAA and at one time the most used book for teaching from. Great info.
PDF reader is required.
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| posted on 4-3-2010 at 10:49 AM |
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Grrr, I don't have a pdf reader. I'll wait till I go back to school. They have Adobe reader there
97 neon
All stock.. For now......
69 C10
L6 6 cylinder engine, hoping to swap out for a 454 soon enough. Stock 3 speed on the floor with a Hurst Indy shifter.
65 C20
283 small block, 4 speed on the floor with granny gear in first. (FOR SALE!!!)
Friends don't let friends drive FORDS!! LOL
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| posted on 4-3-2010 at 10:51 AM |
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Download it for free at adobe.com. It is worth it.
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| posted on 4-3-2010 at 10:53 AM |
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I can't on this computer
97 neon
All stock.. For now......
69 C10
L6 6 cylinder engine, hoping to swap out for a 454 soon enough. Stock 3 speed on the floor with a Hurst Indy shifter.
65 C20
283 small block, 4 speed on the floor with granny gear in first. (FOR SALE!!!)
Friends don't let friends drive FORDS!! LOL
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